Sunday, October 12, 2014

Erik Nanstiel, Controlled Opposition Liar

SILENCE IS CONSENT: This conversation goes back to March of 2011. This is how liars in the autism community who are really controlled opposition "leaders" talk to honest parents of autistic children. The liars think they can avoid answering simple questions because they think they're so smart that they can fool all the parents of autistic kids into believing bullshit while they sell us all out. When they learn that they aren't smart enough to fool you, they block you. That's what it means in the last line here where it states that I can't reply to the conversation. It means that Erik Nanstiel knows that I confirmed he's a liar and he is afraid to confront me. Note Erik changing the subject, avoiding questions and refusing to reply at all. This is what liars do.
6 March 2011
John Best
06/03/2011 13:03
John Best
Hi Erik, Our discussion ended abruptly the other day after I showed you how Kirby and Olmstead took sides with Kathleen Seidel against Dr Geier. I'm not trying to break your balls. I just want to know if you can see the truth yet.
9 March 2011
John Best
09/03/2011 08:36
John Best
Thought it might help if you heard this from someone else: "G. Edward Griffin described controlled opposition as a strategy to defeat one’s opponent by placing an agent in the enemy camp who will provide false leadership. The agent’s mission is to fail while looking sincere. Mr. Griffin gave an example of a boxer who throws a fight. Imagine a scenario with a prizefighter who stands to win $1 million in prize money if he wins a match, but then is offered $3 million to take a dive. If he chooses to throw the fight for the bigger paycheck, he will have to battle in the ring to make it look convincing before failing. This is why it can be difficult to detect controlled opposition."
Wednesday
John Best
08/10/2014 09:44
John Best
Erik, Autism has nothing to do with the MMR shot and everything to do with Congress being 100% corrupt. My son's bowel problems were cured by the third round of chelation. The MMR shot didn't cause even one case of autism in NH, MS or D.C. from 1971 to 1991. How could that be? Those places had zero autism until the HepB shot in 1991 caused the first cases of it. Are you a victim of controlled opposition or are you a perpetrator of it?
Erik Nanstiel
08/10/2014 09:47
Erik Nanstiel
What about the lesions in my daughter's colon? Or the measles titers in my ex wife's spinal fluid after Miranda shed the virus? Autoimmunity is part of autism and live viruses are part of autoimmunity's mechanism
John Best
08/10/2014 09:54
John Best
Erik, I'm not talking about autism to debate individual cases. We won't solve the problem until we remove Congress from office. You either want to solve the problem and save your freedom in the process or you don't.
Erik Nanstiel
08/10/2014 09:56
Erik Nanstiel
Don't frame my intentions with manipulation. Jake Crosby does that shit
The MMR is a dangerous vaccine and especially in the presence of other vaccines. Thimerosal is dangerous and so is aluminum adjuvants. The whole vaccine program must be dismantled
The whole industry is too corrupt to trust any longer
John Best
08/10/2014 10:01
John Best
So, why didn't the MMR cause even one case of autism for 20 years in the places I named? Why didn't Wakefield ever say it causes autism? You used to know that mercury was the cause when you tried the Geiers' treatment. You told me it was working. Jake Crosby and his mother are part of the controlled opposition. I'm not. You can't win the battle by fighting against trolls and idiots. Congress is the enemy.
Erik Nanstiel
08/10/2014 10:02
Erik Nanstiel
Kids weren't getting as much thimerosal and aluminum back in the 70's. So the measles vaccine wasn't as dangerous.
John Best
08/10/2014 10:13
John Best
No vaccine caused any autism from 1798 until 1931. But, that's beside the point. Why don't you want to defeat the real enemy, Congress? Do you know they're corrupt?
Erik Nanstiel
08/10/2014 10:20
Erik Nanstiel
I'm as worried about congress as I am big pharma.
As for single vaccines, when not given in combo, the injury rate is going to be low. They weren't given in the quantities then as they are now, since 1988 when they tripled the pediatric schedule. Too many metals, too many antigens.
John Best
08/10/2014 10:32
John Best
This stuff that takes the blame away from mercury is all a hoax. You must know that. Maybe other things contribute to other problems but they do not cause autism. I asked you several years ago if you saw the infiltrators amongst us and you couldn't see them. Look around. This country has been destroyed. We can still take it back if the country unites instead of battling among ourselves.
Erik Nanstiel
08/10/2014 10:35
Erik Nanstiel
You over simplify the problem just because you had success with chelation. You can't think in absolutes when looking at toxicology, pathology and epidemiology. You have to think inclusively. Look at all angles. Even without thimerosal, aluminum adjuvants are doing lots of damage on their own. We need to dismantle the pediatric vaccine program.
John Best
08/10/2014 10:39
John Best
Would it be easier to find all of the answers if we didn't have a corrupt Congress poisoning our babies and robbing us blind with the FED?
Erik Nanstiel
08/10/2014 10:47
Erik Nanstiel
We have to change Lobby laws, campaign finance laws, etc...
John Best
08/10/2014 10:54
John Best
You don't think the criminals who are making those laws are going to restrict their own criminal activities, do you? Do you understand the theft by Congress and the FED? Thomas Jefferson gave us the solution.
Erik Nanstiel
08/10/2014 10:55
Erik Nanstiel
You gotta start somewhere.
John Best
08/10/2014 10:56
John Best
If you were a criminal, would you pay attention to what victims wanted you to do?
Erik Nanstiel
08/10/2014 10:57
Erik Nanstiel
This has to be fixed systematically
John Best
08/10/2014 10:59
John Best
We've been letting the criminals tell us what to do since 1871. We The People have the power. WE have to take it back by removing the criminals which is every (D) and (R). None of them will stop the poisoning of babies and none of them will stop the robbery. JFK tried to stop the robbery and no other elected criminal has tried since then.
Erik Nanstiel
08/10/2014 11:04
Erik Nanstiel
It's all hypothetical without an actionable plan
John Best
08/10/2014 11:07
John Best
That's why I put my updated DoI in the comments. That's an action plan. It works on Public Opinion. When the country unites to fire Congress, we win. All debt vanishes is an instant. All the money we need to address autism appears. All the lies become exposed because we take control of our free speech again by seizing TV. Didn't you read the link I left there?
Friday
John Best
10/10/2014 10:20
John Best
LOL, yup, ignore the fact that I gave you an "action plan". That's what controlled opposition agents do, ignore the truth at all costs. Have a nice day!
Erik Nanstiel
10/10/2014 10:22
Erik Nanstiel
I've got my hands full john and can't fully engage this at the time. No need to be manipulative.
John Best
10/10/2014 10:28
John Best
Hahaha,, very good. ad hominem excuses to continue perpetuating a hoax about a phony whistleblower. It always makes sense to allow yourself to be led by Playboy bunnies and gay writers than to listen to Thomas Jefferson. Yup, Makes perfect sense to me...if you have a third grade education.
Erik Nanstiel
10/10/2014 10:29
Erik Nanstiel
Thompson isn't phony. I'm friends with Brian Hooker and good friends with Andy Wakefield. I trust them.
I'm also friends with David Kirby. And his orientation is immaterial.
John Best
10/10/2014 10:36
John Best
Yes, he is. Come on! You can't see how the CDC is playing the autism community? An inane study that makes no mention of thimerosal? Nobody who understands autism can actually be stupid enough to fall for this nonsense.
Kirby's orientation, and Olmstead's is being servants to their employers in mainstream media who never tell us the truth about anything. If you trust them, then you probably believe that Oswald acted alone. You truly didn't know that Kirby sold us out every time he said that thimerosal MIGHT cause autism? That was good psychological warfare against us. It said that none of us knew what we were talking about. I know you're too smart to believe this bullshit.
Erik Nanstiel
10/10/2014 10:55
Erik Nanstiel
I can look a man in The eyes and know his character. I know these men. They are not bought. Even if you disagree with their approaches.
John Best
10/10/2014 11:24
John Best
Sorry Erik, they are the enemy. Superb liars like politicians, lawyers and spies who infiltrate opposition groups are skilled at presenting false images to you. Their words that sell us out can not be denied. You trust anyone from the CDC? That's almost as bad as trusting a (D) or (R). Would YOU present evidence that the MMR vaccine caused autism all by itself after you knew that the autism had been caused by multiple shots of thimerosal? Would you!!! Would YOU lie like that?
Erik Nanstiel
10/10/2014 11:28
Erik Nanstiel
I think Andy Wakefield agrees that heavy metal toxicity is a major factor in triggering most causes of autism. MMR is a secondary trigger. You can be mercury toxic without autoimmune responses to your own brain tissue. Introduce a live virus and it all goes to hell.
John Best
10/10/2014 11:46
John Best
Nobody associated with AoA, Safe Minds or any of the alleged opposition ever talks about the APO-E4 which determines that those who have that genetic material can not excrete any mercury. This is the "genetic predisposition" that none of these controlled opposition people ever want name specifically. Don't you find it odd that these people refuse to help their own position by pretending they don't know that this knowledge exists?
You should know that you can't fool me with these stupid arguments that deny mercury as the cause. Why do you bother trying? Do you think I'm stupid enough to fall for that crap?
Erik Nanstiel
10/10/2014 11:48
Erik Nanstiel
I believe mercury is the main culprit. But autism is multi factorial. Viruses play a role too.
Let me be clear. I want to shut down the vaccine program entirely!!!
John Best
10/10/2014 11:50
John Best
Do you think you can shut it down entirely as long as Congress is bribed millions to stonewall the truth? Isn't it obvious to you that we have to remove Congress from office?
Erik Nanstiel
10/10/2014 11:51
Erik Nanstiel
I'd settle for systematically disgracing those that are bought via lobby and then work to change legislation the enables the corruption.
John Best
10/10/2014 11:53
John Best
All of them are bought. Ask any of them who owns the FED. None will answer you. That should be all the proof you need that they're all corrupt.
Erik Nanstiel
10/10/2014 11:54
Erik Nanstiel
We need realistic means of changing this. Nobody's gonna take anybody seriously without dramatic proof of the problem or who suggests congress has to go.
John Best
10/10/2014 11:59
John Best
King George took Jefferson seriously. If you look at the problem, the proof is obvious. When controlled opposition critters infiltrate you and try to provoke you to support things besides mercury as the cause of autism, they subvert your proof? Why do suppose JB Handley went on TV at least four times and never mentioned the fact that mercury in flu shots to pregnant women gave their fetuses at least 200 times the alleged "safe" dose of mercury while he prattled on about too many vaccines (with reduced mercury)?
Lies of omission are always the best lies. Hardly anyone hears them.
Erik Nanstiel
10/10/2014 12:00
Erik Nanstiel
Removing Mercury entirely won't eliminate the whole problem.
John Best
10/10/2014 12:02
John Best
There was no autism until doctors started shooting mercury into children. Despite what Kathleen Seidel says about this, you can't claim your statement is fact until this is done. (You also have to consider bogus diagnoses in the equation.)
Erik Nanstiel
10/10/2014 12:04
Erik Nanstiel
Okay fine. But once Mercury is in, you cannot risk exposure to live viruses. Those cause autoimmunity
Measles being the worst
John Best
10/10/2014 12:09
John Best
I saw a disinformation piece from some woman who claims to be a leader in the autism community. Her name escapes me at the moment. She went on about DNA in vaccines from dead babies causing autoimmunity and autism but wouldn't answer me when I asked her why DHA from blood transfusions, kissing and sharing soda bottles had never caused autoimmunity or autism. When disingenuous arguments make no sense and the perpetrators of those positions refuse to answer, you know you've caught a liar.
You're arguing with me against presenting your strongest position. That makes no sense.
Erik Nanstiel
10/10/2014 12:19
Erik Nanstiel
You've I've been disseminating this video rather vigorously lately? I filmed this: http://youtu.be/CQnTVD4CR8c
John Best
10/10/2014 12:24
John Best
Does Piper Terry sound right? She's the one that had billboards stating "No shots, no school, not true" or something like that. They didn't tell anyone that flu shots to pregnant women were the primary hazard now. Do you see the disinformation there? Blame vaccines and blame being forced but don't blame mercury. That's a lie of omission, attacking the wrong problem but doing so in a way that can fool lots of people, especially if you have a bunch of shills in place who promote you as a "warrior mom". Do you see how the psychological warfare works?
Do you see why these people do not like seeing pictures of my car? I'll go watch the video now.
John Best
10/10/2014 12:29
John Best
Saw video years ago. I'd promote Dan Burton's hearing from 2002(?) if I were you. That was undeniable proof and when Congress ignored it and stonewalled it, thry told us they were going to poison millions more babies. That was enough treason to remove them from office right then, irrespective of the FED.
Erik Nanstiel
10/10/2014 12:33
Erik Nanstiel
Indeed to upload that one too
John Best
10/10/2014 12:39
John Best
Lots of things that you're not answering here. Only you know why not? If they don't make perfect sense, I can answer all questions regarding psychological warfare.
Erik Nanstiel
10/10/2014 12:40
Erik Nanstiel
Dude I'm at work
Saturday
John Best
11/10/2014 09:04
John Best
As with most conversations I have with people associated with Thinking Moms, Canary Party or other controlled opposition factions in the world of autism, you managed to avoid answering almost everything I asked you. At least when I used to write my Congresscritters, they had the common courtesy to lie to me. No sane person refuses to consider methods that would end autism, especially parents who have severely affected kids. I understand that most of the population has been so "dumbed down" now that most are helpless sheeple who will trust any alleged saviors to rescue them. I bother to confront people like you so you're aware that you haven't fooled everyone. I like to give you the opportunity to admit your roles in the deception. So, thank you.
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